From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87ilkelc10.fsf@posteo.net> <878rl6syg8.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgdjqcu0.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgdivc3f.fsf@posteo.net> <874jvqv2u3.fsf@posteo.net> <875yg6qtbl.fsf@posteo.net> <87ilk33lqk.fsf@posteo.net> <87mt9epqlk.fsf@posteo.net> <87ilk1bgvd.fsf@posteo.net> <87edupbdp0.fsf@posteo.net> <875yg1bc02.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11182"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 30 15:59:40 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1op9mm-0002jG-2B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 15:59:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1op9mO-0002lJ-NA; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1op9mK-0002jx-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1op9mI-0005iE-Em; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7D78A80325; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1717580436; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:59:07 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1667141947; bh=eGwLQO5vAPdXWzQfrIy9H5NXEz7pkrj0MZCAAlWWHuU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=dWwzblhqb8aLLoL3O6kfxrPK2H9zT1rzUjJ67sY+8LcIFUImP3f8CmEyOL7WxOFlv /CCZt7itCQHDKfUJ4w/z37P3iD/kdJ2HU4IoSHjG67V9/PpRieLkhCt+Pkk3z789G0 0h/C3YX1it/jaINqOua5+ABlqIMHjVLlrMiIrOF6MgtQbDRAqp6rKm1UIw/dAvppEw 3egDkoj1qXPfw/g41j9upAjQRXJ9L825lA6TIKco8eXB/e4WhhGCK0ZGcKjXRK6vGo q/4dHiQpGDxJrG0iGSde6Dvw7KEokUfksoYsteOyW//+3o2n+G78JQWgpU4oYWwTE6 PixPko/pqppew== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E3720120FBA; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:59:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <875yg1bc02.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sun, 30 Oct 2022 14:51:41 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298820 Archived-At: >> FWIW, I suspect that your `git blame` will give the same answer as the >> corresponding `git log` (it will probably end up using the same code >> under the hood), but I don't understand what you mean above. I think >> `git log` would accept the exact same `-L` as you use for `git blame` >> and will deal with "the issue that the Version header might move" in the >> exact same way. > > Well apparently not, but I am not entirely sure what the issue was. If > you want to, I could take a better look at it and figure out if I missed > something. Not worth it. As I said, I think it'll give the same info anyway. >> I find this part of VC beyond repair: AFAICT the notion of >> "tag/snapshot/..." has been defined "on the fly" with a narrow view of >> what was needed for one particular situation at a particular time. >> >> It's probably worth "throwing it out" (well, keeping it on life support) >> and introducing a whole new set of operations based on a design that >> tries to accommodate all the various related notions out there. > > I agree, but that issue goes beyond the proposal of feature/package+vc. No doubt :-) Stefan