From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: intern-soft, find-face/get-face, and facep for determining faces' definedness Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:15:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <0whwtx5meng.fsf@rescomp.Stanford.EDU.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87k6t4rd5b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <847aaaf204110123282bb4ddd8@mail.gmail.com> <847aaaf20411020048201a2419@mail.gmail.com> <87mzy0pl0o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099491396 9822 80.91.229.6 (3 Nov 2004 14:16:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bpalmer@gmail.com, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org, bpalmer@rescomp.stanford.edu, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 03 15:16:23 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPLvz-0006e0-00 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:16:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPM45-0000S5-KM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:24:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPM3w-0000S0-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:24:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPM3w-0000Rm-9b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:24:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPM3w-0000Rj-63 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:24:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPLvQ-0000CM-7c; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:15:48 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58AE828317; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:15:47 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F7B4AC8BB; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:15:36 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4D10A8CA69; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:15:36 -0500 (EST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:45:01 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29386 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:16676 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29386 > I still don't understand why (facep 'foo) returns nil, even though > (put-text-property (point) (+ 10 (point)) 'face 'foo) > and > (set-face-foreground 'foo "red") > work just fine. > I don't understand what you mean here. As far as I know, if (facep > 'foo) returns nil, then (set-face-foreground 'foo "red") will signal > an error, "Invalid face". Conversely, if you define foo as face, then > (facep 'foo) will return t. Yes, that's what happens under Emacs. I was talking about XEmacs, tho. Stefan