From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org
Subject: Re: kbd vs read-key-sequence
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:12:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7itl7sfl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HQvdW-0007G3-Ie@etlken.m17n.org> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Tue\, 13 Mar 2007 10\:17\:10 +0900")
>> > Because the way the event is decoded through read-key-sequence is
>> > not necessarily the same. E.g. while ?<encoded-?> may get turned
>> > into ??, it may be the case that ?\M-<encoded-?> stays unchanged.
>> > How does that happen?
>> See the OP. It seems that encoded-kb.el has such a limitation (it should
>> probably be considered as a bug, but there may be good reasons for it,
>> I don't know).
> At first, encoded-kbd-mode is designed to be used in the case that Emacs
> is invoked with -nw, and it uses key-translation-map to handle character
> events from 0 to 255 (that's all what happens with -nw).
That's true, so it's probably the reason for the limitation: all meta keys
are expected to come with an ESC prefix, so the code has no good reason to
handle ?\M-<foo> chars.
> I think the following diagram is the right thing to do:
> window-system terminal
> | |
> | window event | character event 0..255
> | |
> handle_one_xevent keyboad-coding-system decoder
> \ /
> \ lispy event /
> \ /
> \ /
> read_char
> |
> input method
> |
> keymap
Agreed.
> And, it's in my todo list to abolish encoded-kbd-mode and
> implement keyboard-coding-system decoder in C for long, but
> unfortunately I still don't have a time to do that.
Does it have to be done in C?
> As shown in the previous diagram, I think it's a bug of w32
> code if it doesn't convert such an event as ?\M-<encoded-?>
> into ?\M-é because only a window system generates such an
> event and knows how to encode it.
Agreed. The bug is that w32 shouldn't be using encoded-kb.
> One guideline is not to use encoded-kbd-mode on window system.
But that's the only available way in w32, IIUC.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-13 3:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-28 22:27 kbd vs read-key-sequence Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-28 22:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-28 22:50 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-02-28 23:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-01 1:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-01 5:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-01 12:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-01 15:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-01 17:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-01 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-01 23:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-02 0:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-02 9:09 ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-02 9:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-02 16:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-02 17:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-02 17:57 ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-02 18:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-02 18:20 ` David Kastrup
2007-03-02 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-03 0:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-03 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-03 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-05 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-05 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-11 20:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-12 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-13 1:17 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-03-13 3:12 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-03-13 4:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-03-13 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-19 5:14 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-19 12:25 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-03-19 14:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-03-26 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-26 7:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-03-26 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-27 0:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-03-27 16:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-28 0:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-03-29 15:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-29 16:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-30 21:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-31 0:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-31 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-31 23:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-01 3:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-01 13:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-01 19:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-01 20:18 ` Jason Rumney
2007-04-01 20:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-02 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-02 2:27 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-02 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-02 12:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-02 12:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-02 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-02 16:14 ` Jason Rumney
2007-04-02 23:24 ` Davis Herring
2007-04-03 6:58 ` Jason Rumney
2007-04-03 7:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-03 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-03 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 17:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-03 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-04 14:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-04 14:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-03 9:05 ` Jason Rumney
2007-04-03 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 10:24 ` Jason Rumney
2007-04-04 14:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-03 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-04 14:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-04 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-31 20:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-31 21:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-31 22:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-30 0:47 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-03-30 3:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-31 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-31 20:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-30 21:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-31 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-19 5:14 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-26 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-28 0:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-28 16:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-28 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-29 17:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-30 23:47 ` Chong Yidong
2007-03-31 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-03 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2007-03-02 18:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-03-02 19:04 ` Jason Rumney
2007-03-03 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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