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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Untagging by subtraction instead of masking on USE_LSB_TAG
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:07:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7ihuc8dj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wl8x2aaejj.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:07:28 +0900")

> This would make sense if the latency of load/store does not depend on
> its displacement (I'm not sure if that is the case in general).
> Comments?

Yes, all RISC processors I can think of (other than ADM29K, maybe)
provide a "small" offset for free: a 0 offset is no faster than
a -5 offset.

Additionally, masking the lower 3 bits may sometimes be surprisingly
costly (the obvious solution of ANDing with ~7 requires a 32bit
constant, which tends to be more costly than a smaller constant, and
the rsh+lsh can be even worse).

So, yes, your patch looks like a very good idea in general.
It's also what is typically used in Lisp/Smalltalk/younameit compilers.


        Stefan


PS: This trick has another advantage: on some hardware (e.g. SPARC) if
after adding/subtracting the offset, the resulting address is not
aligned, you can get an exception, which means you get tag-checking for
free.  This is no coincidence, since the SPARC architecture benefitted
from the experience of the SOAR (Smalltalk On A RISC) project.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-28 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-28  2:07 Untagging by subtraction instead of masking on USE_LSB_TAG YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-01-28  3:52 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-28  4:22   ` Miles Bader
2008-01-28  4:25     ` Miles Bader
2008-01-28  5:02       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-01-28 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]

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