From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift-movement selection Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <8763w0n393.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <871w6ounk0.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ablacdxt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87skyzzeng.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87d4q35u3z.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vvzbme.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205166575 8882 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2008 16:29:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 10 17:29:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYkqf-0000vw-W7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:27:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkq7-0000J9-PD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkpr-0008V6-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkpp-0008UD-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYkpp-0008Tx-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:45 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYkpi-0004JH-CW; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:38 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQHABT+1EfO+JwVQWdsb2JhbACQdAEBAR4IEpg/gQc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,474,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15795742" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2008 12:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.156.21]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id QTK61137; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 81E47805A; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8763vvzbme.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:06:01 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92052 Archived-At: > Yeah, the various issues seem orthogona (copying some text from my > previous message): > (1) how to turn on shift-selection -- binding keys vs. special > detection of commands > (2) How to turn _off_ shift-selection -- post-command-hook > vs. transient-mark-mode "only mode" vs. ... > You're right that it seems better to extend the deactivate-mark variable > to implement this feature so it works right for t-m-m users too. Could you resend me your proposal? > Do you have an exact mechanism in mind? I find the dance of variables > used for deactivate-mark and transient-mark-mode kind of > confusing... :-) Yes, it's terrible. Stefan