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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fixed-pitch and variable-pitch faces
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:56:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7id16pzm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871w39mcx5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:23:50 -0400")

>   '((t :family "courier"))
[...]
>   '((t :family "helv"))
[..]
> I think the font backend is matching these to non-fontconfig fonts.

Yes, I see that here too.  The problem appears to be that "courier" and
"helvetica" are proprietary/trademarked fonts and/or font names (I
don't know exactly, just guessing), so most GNU/Linux distributions
don't come with them.
Instead, they have things like "arial" and "courier new".

The old-way to solve it is to add those mapping to
face-font-family-alternatives.  But as it turns out, this is not enough:
face-font-family-alternatives already maps "helv" to "arial" which I do
have anti-aliased, but I also happen to have the standard set of
adobe-helvetica bitmapped fonts distributed with Xorg and this is given
precedence in the list because, well, we asked for "helvetica" rather
than "arial".

I would actually expect fontconfig to be able to provide such mappings
as well (tho it appears not to do it), so maybe there's a way to let
fontconfig solve this problem.

As for solving it within Emacs, I'm not sure what we should do.
Maybe rather than do

  (dolist (names face-font-family-alternatives)
    (dolist (backend font-backends)
      (try-font)))

we should just do

  (dolist (backend font-backends)
    (dolist (names face-font-family-alternatives)
      (try-font)))


-- Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-07 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-07 16:23 Fixed-pitch and variable-pitch faces Chong Yidong
2008-06-07 16:28 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-07 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-06-07 20:33   ` David Hansen
2008-06-07 21:34   ` James Cloos
2008-06-08 11:29     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09  1:29       ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-09  2:59         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09  4:49           ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-09  5:17             ` Miles Bader
2008-06-09  5:34               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09  6:14                 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-09  6:20                   ` Miles Bader
2008-06-09  7:20                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09  7:56                       ` Miles Bader
2008-06-09 11:06                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09 11:38                           ` Miles Bader
2008-06-09 12:06                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09 12:09                               ` Miles Bader
2008-06-09 11:26                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09  6:35                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-09  6:41                     ` Miles Bader
2008-06-09 13:40                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-10  1:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-10  1:44                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-06-10  8:01                     ` James Cloos

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