From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4868CF84.1040005@pajato.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <87iqtxd3ra.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <48AA72F4.50802@pajato.com> <48AD73D0.7080300@pajato.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219852174 6425 80.91.229.12 (27 Aug 2008 15:49:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Michael Reilly Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 27 17:50:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYNGM-0004ll-0C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:48:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55111 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYNFN-000397-QG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYNFI-00037k-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYNFF-00036N-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40646 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYNFF-00036K-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:21985 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYNFE-0004G3-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:41 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmsFAEsUtUhFxI/k/2dsb2JhbACBZbd2gWiBBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,279,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="26041043" Original-Received: from 69-196-143-228.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.143.228]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 27 Aug 2008 11:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DC5B97F21; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <48AD73D0.7080300@pajato.com> (Paul Michael Reilly's message of "Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:55:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103023 Archived-At: >>> Here's my conundrum. I'm married to IMAP, for better or worse. I have my >>> mail on a very reliable RAID5, backed up, fast server. One under my >> Adding proper IMAP support to Rmail is between difficult and impossible, > Distressing but not surprising to hear. I'm guessing there has been > discussions around this topic but I can't find any trace. Do you have > a reference or can you elaborate? No, it's just my own assessment based on my knwoledge of how IMAP and Rmail work. >> but if you limit yourself to using the IMAP protocol in order to >> download your messages (i.e. as if it were just POP), then it should be >> pretty simple and indeed using GNU mailutils's code may give you this >> feature for free. > I am getting my messages now using the mailutil movemail which will allow me > to use both Rmail/mbox and Thunderbird on a daily basis. Good. >> We do want to bring Emacs's and mailutils's movemail closer. > This is very good to hear. What else can you tell me? Is someone working > on it? Have constraints been established? Not that I know. It's just generally desirable to reuse other people's work. > Having movemail provide a "synchronize" operation for IMAP seems to > make some sense to me but in due time I suppose. That would probably be the easiest way to get Rmail to "properly" support IMAP. "Easiest" does not necessarily mean "easy", of course. Especially if you want it to work reliably. Stefan