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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Tobias C. Rittweiler" <tcr@freebits.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: t and nil in pure memory?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:22:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7htvixhg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pr7oxieq.fsf@freebits.de> (Tobias C. Rittweiler's message of "Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:21:33 +0100")

>> > The last GC before dumping generates 200K calls to mark_object, of those
>> > 20K have Qt or Qnil as an argument.
>> 
>> > Would it make sense to put Qt and Qnil in pure memory?
>> 
>> No, because they may contain pointers to objects that aren't in pure
>> memory (via the plist).

> In principle, you could scratch the plist slot from symbols themselves,
> and instead make `symbol-plist' go over an EQ hash-table. (Such
> externalizing of the symbol plist may make more sense in other dialects
> of Lisp where the plist is used less often than in Elisp -- even though
> I'm not aware of any implementation which does.)

Actually, it's even worse than that: (interned) symbols have a `next'
field which points to the next symbol in the obarray (hash) bucket.
So that's yet another reason why (pure)symbols can have pointers to non
pure memory.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-12 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-11 20:23 t and nil in pure memory? Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-11 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  8:21   ` Tobias C. Rittweiler
2009-11-12 15:22     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-11-13  5:24       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-13 14:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-14 11:23           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-15 20:25           ` David Kastrup
2009-11-16  1:26             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-16  8:24               ` David Kastrup
2009-11-17  7:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-17 13:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17 13:55                     ` David Kastrup
2009-11-18 12:11                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-18 15:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:53                         ` Daniel Colascione
2009-11-18 18:19                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 16:23                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-19 20:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  4:12                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20  5:47                               ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-22  6:48                                 ` Sam Steingold
2009-11-22  8:14                                   ` David Kastrup
2009-11-19 21:05                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-15 21:08           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-16  1:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 18:53               ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-18 19:03                 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-11-18 19:18                   ` Tom Tromey
2009-11-18 19:13                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-11-23  3:05                   ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-23  5:31                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 16:03                       ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-24 16:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19  1:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  4:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-13  4:55   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-13  8:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-14 11:23       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-14 11:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-15 22:38           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-13  4:56 ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-20  7:28 A. Soare
2009-11-20  8:09 ` David Kastrup

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