From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrating package.el Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:19:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <878wcdjg9r.fsf@hagelb.org> <87637gh73j.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87637b96pc.fsf@hagelb.org> <87wrzr6ugo.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocl242jc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d41ihx9g.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ocl167wx.fsf@hagelb.org> <8763795zsh.fsf@hagelb.org> <87r5pmwcf8.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocjh2hyp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <873a0qxrd1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87635gqe8k.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267478449 29225 80.91.229.12 (1 Mar 2010 21:20:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 01 22:20:45 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmD2i-00008Y-Jq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:20:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37778 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmD2h-0003Ju-Hj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:20:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NmD1s-0002Rm-EG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:19:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59225 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmD1r-0002QJ-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:19:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmD1q-0006UG-C4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:19:51 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:57092 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmD1q-0006U2-9V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:19:50 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAJu9i0tMCrTT/2dsb2JhbACbBnS9RIR7BIMXh3E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,562,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="57200551" Original-Received: from 76-10-180-211.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.180.211]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2010 16:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B1A258205; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:19:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87635gqe8k.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 01 Mar 2010 08:59:55 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121513 Archived-At: > OK. But I still think Emacs should record the version as I suggested > whenever it finds it in a .el/.elc file. It would help resolve many > annoying user-level bugs by showing exactly what version of the library > was loaded, not implied from the directory but directly from the version > header. Does that require lots of changes? I don't see much evidence that "it would help resolve many annoying user-level bugs". I'm not opposed to it, but when it comes to making external Elisp packages easier to manage for the user, this comes very far down the list of priorities. Stefan