From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `set-variable' should use :set Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:01:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d3r3qd44.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <871v7jqchc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <033D7FA139144B03B1370B9E9C1113ED@us.oracle.com> <87bp6nklx2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <823F3463F14A490A90A6075368296AC2@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287756701 20874 80.91.229.12 (22 Oct 2010 14:11:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:11:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" , 'Miles Bader' , 'Emacs-Devel devel' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 22 16:11:39 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P9ILF-0002T2-Sz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:11:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47064 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P9ILD-0006t3-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:11:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55222 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P9ICN-0007Fp-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:02:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P9IBt-0007wV-Fc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:02:21 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:3477 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P9IBt-0007vG-DJ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:01:53 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjIJADc2wUzO+IF0/2dsb2JhbACgZ3pywB+FSgSSHQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,223,1286164800"; d="scan'208";a="80406253" Original-Received: from 206-248-129-116.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.129.116]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 22 Oct 2010 10:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DF80EA8497; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:01:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <823F3463F14A490A90A6075368296AC2@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:34:32 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131989 Archived-At: I'm surprised that this discussion compares customize-variable and set-variable: obviously set-variable has a completely different UI which means that customize-variable cannot replace it. But there is also customize-set-variable, which is what we should compare it against. So I think Drew wants set-variable and customize-set-variable to be made more similar. I would agree and I think we should merge them. I would also suggest that it's a good opportunity to obsolete variable-interactive. Stefan