From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Change in rmail-start-mail Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83mxl0sc1h.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299964137 21976 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2011 21:08:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 12 22:08:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyW3P-0007om-3a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:08:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59339 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PyVsb-00032m-Vr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48370 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PyVsV-00032N-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyVsU-0004px-0Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:45301 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyVsS-0004pc-L9; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:32 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEACZte03O+IG+/2dsb2JhbACmQnjAL4ViBIUrkCE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,308,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="96053475" Original-Received: from 206-248-129-190.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.129.190]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Mar 2011 15:57:31 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EA96F59047; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83mxl0sc1h.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:28:42 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137165 Archived-At: > Why was this change made? So that the text displayed while you edit the buffer is correct rather than being some "weird encoding". > What was the problem it was supposed to solve? I guess the above. > It is quite clear that the assumption was that some other code will > RFC 2047 encode these headers before the message is sent, but what > code is supposed to do that? The message sending function needs to do that in any case since non-ascii chars may have been added manually anyway. > I use sendmail-user-agent and smtpmail-send-it, and these do not > encode those headers. Looks like they have a problem. > Should the decoding introduced with the above revision be conditioned > on some specific MUA? Maybe until the above functions are either fixed or declared obsolete, we could maybe try and add a hack to leave the encoded text in the edition buffer, but that sounds like pretty sub-standard behavior. Stefan