From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4E48D309.6050503@acdlabs.ru> <83hb5jujjs.fsf@gnu.org> <874o1j10zv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8362lyvcli.fsf@gnu.org> <87fwl2r0l4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83zkjatnkz.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313457104 20701 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2011 01:11:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 01:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 16 03:11:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qt8Bw-0007Ih-5z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 03:11:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qt8Bu-0008Ns-Ee for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qt8Br-0008Nn-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:11:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qt8Bq-0003DX-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:11:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:57564 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qt8Bm-0003Cc-VH; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:11:31 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EADzDSU5FxKeo/2dsb2JhbABBqBR4gUABAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIA7okhkcEn22ENQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,377,1309752000"; d="scan'208";a="131325725" Original-Received: from 69-196-167-168.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.167.168]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 15 Aug 2011 21:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6158166139; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:11:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83zkjatnkz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:41:00 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:143273 Archived-At: > More importantly, I don't think it's a good idea to change the bidi > properties in such a radical way (or at all), because we don't have > the resources to investigate all of the consequences. For example, < > is a mirrored character, so when it's between to R2L characters, it > displays as > and vice versa. Yes, I know: you'll suggest to change > the mirroring table as well, but how far should we go? do we really > want to create our own UBA? Furthermore, this buffer-local table should only be used for actual code, but the default global table should probably be used within comments and strings. Stefan