From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: SMTP server error message Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:51:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83mwdydqcs.fsf@gnu.org> <8738fq58zi.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401551494 21739 80.91.229.3 (31 May 2014 15:51:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 15:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 31 17:51:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WqlZ7-00080a-5e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 17:51:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60267 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqlZ6-0002yk-O2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:51:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58432) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqlYw-0002qh-Mo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:51:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqlYp-00054P-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:42448) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqlYp-00054L-2Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:51:07 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVPO+IOj/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVPO+IOj/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="65176229" Original-Received: from 206-248-131-163.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.131.163]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 31 May 2014 11:51:06 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 359BD602C3; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:51:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8738fq58zi.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sat, 31 May 2014 16:16:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172221 Archived-At: > Getting a 451 means, "Sorry, didn't work out this time. Come back later > if you still want to." Most SMTP servers would now enter exponential > backoff for re-delivery attempts, most MTA will simply bow out and let > the user handle the problem. Did you mean "MUA"? Or what is the difference between an MTA and an SMTP server? Stefan