From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:49:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415656207 4026 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2014 21:50:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nic Ferrier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 22:50:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwqT-0006zt-4J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:49:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwqS-00071U-Pm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:49:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnwq9-0006MJ-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:49:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnwpz-0003SI-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:49:37 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:61418) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnwpz-0003SE-Qc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:49:27 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4MAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSISwnLcgEBAQEGAQEBAR6RCAeESwWLZI0vBZkIgW+EFh+CegEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: Au4MAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSISwnLcgEBAQEGAQEBAR6RCAeESwWLZI0vBZkIgW+EFh+CegEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,797,1406606400"; d="scan'208";a="96592221" Original-Received: from 75-119-235-29.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.235.29]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 10 Nov 2014 16:49:27 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DBE09735D; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:49:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> (Nic Ferrier's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:27:18 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176717 Archived-At: > I am still cross about the whole state of packaging. It's wrong. But no > one seems to be listening to me. I'm not sure if you're referring to the way GNU ELPA works or about package.el. About GNU ELPA, it's not that I don't listen, but that I disagree. The point of GNU ELPA to not to just distribute other people's packages. Stefan