From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:] Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <87pnhq7mxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87bltaz9g4.fsf@telefonica.net> <834kz25qp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wexsv1.fsf@telefonica.net> <83sgmm4a08.fsf@gnu.org> <87h832xqxr.fsf@telefonica.net> <20191117192558.GC11551@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="121903"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 21:01:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iWQjV-000VWE-17 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:01:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56114 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWQjT-0002ko-Jh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:01:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57477) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWQjC-0002f9-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:00:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWQjA-0004fl-DG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:00:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:44523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWQjA-0004eY-6M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:00:56 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BBED4449EC7; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:00:53 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7D7F8449EC5; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:00:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1574020852; bh=8MDxRxF/5DxKZ68e7Q/MtK4yHwi9Z1uFvlaVivrqk7I=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=nNO9xg1d9zlHsC5NEjZF3WVaxo2JzMkEYY+EFamEX5w0qm9gMp4nTZCBmkQyqzK/G soEGec52G7sF5Zw+LahmwMd4Ih22cA7+Hmlz48CyeiZNBB6lPupxoKKKiQ9fUvQ+LB wp4v/aGtyLKF1ROEVFsHcNUX+cd6cT03sWmvaUQ/k6y0DfVlgtxUaJBL8H+hSf3nhM lVWmcOFX/eBFKEjX27mvpbGVoq5fbw/AZsMtY2kS3+cCd94APdSyB6q5yZ7oerNQGu +ib1IqxQUh0YOe1THAo9C91m52LCDu5NSiryzwwdooRXPJS9sQcOkAjLHKCZzES80e 604lcn/SNfxLA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.18.30]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36514120778; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:00:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20191117192558.GC11551@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:25:58 +0000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242319 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > That's not to say debbugs is perfect. But for me, it beats bugzilla and > other Web browser based trackers handsomely. Indeed, so far I've seen only bugtrackers that suck. Either they suck because the only good UI is web-based (and I hate having to go through that), or they suck because they have no good web based UI (so it's only good for those users who use it often enough to know it). [ For good measure, I implemented my own bugtracker-that-sucks (https://gitlab.com/monnier/bugit). ] I've heard rumors that maybe SourceHut's bug tracker may satisfy both sides, but I haven't really tried it (and when I looked at installing it it seemed to require too much effort on my part) so I don't yet have an opinion on it. Stefan