From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs is not reproducible Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 13:41:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87lf8dcrcd.fsf@disroot.org> <15pmxh100n.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28004"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 25 19:43:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1llb5R-00072z-9H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 19:43:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44822 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llb5Q-0000jg-6p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 13:43:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llb3S-0005dK-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 13:41:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:53009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llb3Q-0003rV-OX; Tue, 25 May 2021 13:41:22 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id ACD3A10025C; Tue, 25 May 2021 13:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3351410020E; Tue, 25 May 2021 13:41:18 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1621964478; bh=tI0AqrbIVFAf7wxr1HsK2LuIqoBKmP7l1MAd76eIPz4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=nhxn/3FVu57eAn6T83Je2OYBEYDFnBMk+IUIk/YAvoCbXA5QibU2CkvRXgE1C8urY h2soqvn2X4fORGTmFEfxx/EPoZgBaf+iqsCEoOjxk6/JcVyvi8UpazS5Ll/WN16yVg q7HLXQEBcScSriyhn4M80IL65zExjJ9Qwe5IC/hTm8f3Mq7k+u7Vzo5KT9X+tr8a9U ZCJOyyk56Jr/dTqFinnuhXmmVsXaChMkb6gog5EBlzJbXVnO/bE7Qqte8BD6GfN3RH l3uFKd8+bA6QLy0bcqfw65Vy1SYwdBFH7jSaWTOA0jxqP44LB0UW56w8BrNj6rBC2m z5k5pVamZJRQQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-196-163-239.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.163.239]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05E74120A1D; Tue, 25 May 2021 13:41:17 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <15pmxh100n.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 23 May 2021 19:52:08 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269875 Archived-At: Glenn Morris [2021-05-23 19:52:08] wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> There has been changes made in the past to fix some problems. >>> I have a pending patch in bug#46502 (see below) which aims to fix some >>> more of those problems, but still haven't heard confirmation that it >>> helps. > I did 10 builds with -j8; 5 without your patch and 5 with. > The builds without your patch had changes in 12, 10, 9, 11 elc files. > The builds with your patch had changes in 4, 4, 7, 4 elc files. Thanks for confirming what I was seeing. I pushed the patch to `master`. > Mostly tramp.elc, ox-odt.elc, ox.elc, cc-mode.elc; sometimes in > eieio files. At least some of these seem to be https://debbugs.gnu.org/34322 The mystery for those remains, > So it seems better in terms of less elc variation. > It causes all tests in test/lisp/cedet/semantic-utest-ia.el to fail. I'm indeed looking at it, Stefan