From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:15:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205101088 17429 80.91.229.12 (9 Mar 2008 22:18:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 23:18:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYTqg-0001Ov-Bc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:18:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYTq6-00048O-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYToD-0002r2-W4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:15:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYToC-0002qG-VQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:15:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYToC-0002q8-OO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:15:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYTo6-0008OE-6P; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:15:50 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmgCAJn+00fO+J2CdGdsb2JhbACQfQEwlymBBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,471,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15769808" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2008 18:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.157.130]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id PZY30149; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D31F3805A; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:15:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:06:37 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91933 Archived-At: >> I think something similar would be a great basis for implementing this >> feature for default emacs use -- it's very simple and does exactly >> what's wanted for the typical user. > IMO that approach is severely broken for several reasons. > And it is not _excatly_ what any typical user wants. I haven't thought hard enough yet about what his suggestion does, so could you expand on its downsides? Stefan