From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213736643 2899 80.91.229.12 (17 Jun 2008 21:04:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it, Kenichi Handa To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 17 23:04:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K8iM7-00014E-Hz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:04:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33280 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K8iLJ-0004ba-3V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K8iKh-0004AK-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K8iKf-00048k-4L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44558 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K8iKe-00048W-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:42243) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K8iKe-0006Nh-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:12 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (x-132-204-252-182.xtpr.umontreal.ca [132.204.252.182]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with SMTP id m5HL3V9l023029 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2FDDDB405F; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:01:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered HAS_X_HELO=0, RV3040=0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99369 Archived-At: >>> Is there any reason to have x,xft by default, instead of xft,x? >> Backward compatibility. > Will re-ordering the font backends fix the other problem we discussed, > which is that the `fixed-pitch' and `variable-pitch' faces are > non-fontconfig fonts? We need to solve this problem, because it looks > bad if Emacs acquires Fontconfig font support but the startup screen > doesn't use those fonts. > Re-ordering the font-backends in .emacs does not solve the problem. > Should we simply abolish the use of `fixed-pitch' and `variable-pitch'? I think this would not be an appropriate solution. It's more akin to hiding the problem than to solving it. Even more so since users's .emacs as well as external package may make use of those faces. Stefan