From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VMS support Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87iquzmcxm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4l76ntu.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <8763qznhfd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k5fcc2ui.fsf@ambire.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216843588 2007 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2008 20:06:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 22:07:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLkbi-0008W2-Jz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:06:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLkao-0006JJ-W8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLka8-0006A9-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLka7-00069h-SQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39704 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLka7-00069c-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:63118 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLka7-0006lV-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:03 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EAI8rh0hFxIYw/2dsb2JhbACBWrIjgX0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,239,1215403200"; d="scan'208";a="24726244" Original-Received: from 69-196-134-48.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.134.48]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2008 16:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4BC1F7F1C; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87k5fcc2ui.fsf@ambire.localdomain> (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:27:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101331 Archived-At: > What is the situation with the VMS support? AFAICT, ttn was working > on getting it to work again, but I haven't heard anything about this > project since. > Emacs 21.2 was the last known-good port, but that requires out-of-tree > code due to legal issues (specifically: the author of a big chunk of > VMS-specific code filed in 1992 a "copyright disclaimer" only, which is > not equal in force to a "copyright assignment" IIUC, and repeated > attempts to get the (standard) past/future copyright assignment from him > (by me and perhaps others) have failed, even though he has indicated in > 200[45]-ish email that he is willing to do so). These legal issues > might still be resolvable (i can try engaging him again), but i cannot > say for sure. The only question that I think is really relevant is: is there some hope that someone will pursue this work (both the copyright assignment issue and the update of the code to the Emacs-CVS-trunk codebase) in some foreseeable future. Stefan