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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: kelly@prtime.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Short patch for review
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:44:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv61ayhvos.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r3tm4fia.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:49:49 +0200")

> Do we have guidelines for which errors should be 'user-error'?

The idea is that if an error is normally not the result of an Elisp bug
but a "pilot error", we should use `user-error' so that users who set
debug-on-error to t don't get dropped into the debugger when they hit
this signal.

Now, in practice, I think most/all places where we signal an error can
sometimes be due to a pilot error and sometimes due to a bug in Elisp.
So it's a judgment call.

I wish we could have a more reliable way to handle that.
To the best of my knowledge we *could* do better by indicating for those
"user-error" a condition under which this should be treated as a "pilot
error", and this condition usually looks like "we're called from
function <foo> and that function was called interactively".

E.g. if forward-sexp bumps into EOB it's a user-error when forward-sexp
was called interactively, but it's a normal error otherwise.
But of course, if forward-sexp was called from a wrapper which itself
was called interactively it might still be a user-error.
IOW doing it right automatically is pretty much impossible.

So we're currently stuck with this judgment call.


        Stefan



      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-19 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-18 21:17 Short patch for review Artur Malabarba
2015-02-18 22:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19  5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-19 10:30   ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 11:07   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-02-19 11:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-19 13:44   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]

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