From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Standardizing more key bindings? Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:56:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8774"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 15:57:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kOLYh-0002Bh-KB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 15:57:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46378 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kOLYg-0003pI-LK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:57:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52502) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kOLXx-0003MM-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:56:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:53397) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kOLXv-0007TF-4o; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:56:28 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4D23C440958; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 09:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DAFEE44072B; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 09:56:23 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1601646983; bh=cdb/GmgcZF/cD5cm6hycueg7sd72nx1KDg83XaaN/u4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=StY6W4lRfxH6pjk+53D/B9Mm5oJd6ump9Hp0icmTaV9a8jKEvfviZMLbZ5WvY17D0 ygY5ysy2k/zWt1mkuJC852akK3boTt9I+r+rUmHjxrM6bGMEhfRI9d1xUSdAfxMup+ MjPgwvC2jAex0dd6LCWSpa5npAF1979uJMKHHwjCUKgoAL1RbLpw25uZONKWxuRg1R 6bU9Z+MwPHhy+WcIXi1ZEbkG4l1IGWqUDIn64yxWfI1uOID+7/qVE205pcP66pTyHn Yo7ucly4JALQuh7BjuPUsBWCeJ6qjmVqCEOTUuYEQp/Zqyfuzbz9Ez/0meFujRlrSJ KtLdsm1kYFewQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83A1412023D; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 09:56:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 01 Oct 2020 23:45:29 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/02 09:56:25 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256945 Archived-At: > > > I applaud this initiative, but one of the steps would be to define > > > common bindings to use in all "inferior" (REPL) modes, > That is a good idea, but please let's call them "interpreter modes", > to avoid misleading implications about how these languages work. FWIW, I disagree: in my part of the world, "REPL" is the standard term to talk about an interactive loop that "read"s a chunk of code, "eval"uates it, and then "print"s the result. AFAIK this description fits the "REPL" acronym and fits most interactive loops like that of a shell, or those of languages like OCaml, Lua, Python, younameit. Stefan