From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:33:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> <83r0yfzz01.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkpjyx3p.fsf@posteo.net> <83bkpjynmj.fsf@gnu.org> <87iljqya44.fsf@posteo.net> <8335auzo9s.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgd2ws8z.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqezkxj.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1slgq3m.fsf@posteo.net> <87bkpgfsqv.fsf@posteo.net> <87educ9fei.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19275"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 09 19:34:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ospu9-0004md-PW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:34:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osptS-00060y-KA; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:33:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osptQ-00060g-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:33:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osptP-00051r-1v; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:33:44 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0463744149A; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:33:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9872344148E; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:33:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1668018818; bh=PzdaJTibS91maPBYcVaIay6e7F/1+Gxnqr16L4lpGTg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ZtFbI/B2Iq1P6FwrLGd5AFZbQgFJVXN9PUuug4Ka34k5o3p6vT/GJlxQmG12Bzck1 9emq5Fg/HXYLwsrAGJN6Al3VGrYX/5ArieQo7ADYizzGCdH07DIy6U0ptNjqpmgGoY 3+TcnVpvdYkE14u9CXFFZ/D9RF5EgSNAHt0DLHIzbLnsdpQB2tX/JmjN6pRFGvg2vp XLkeQsDjPBXY4GdnSp7G/SBhj44frIVnm0CyXhcPAMeCb011Wg62ICcCnyUneCXolY NAS3f9QJb2fLm3BzQapCLSJAk80RIO+kmIpwYF5XK/yoc6aDD+LDr87OGEIVVdPvW9 yDqSuvwT2VLFg== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B935120DBB; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:33:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87educ9fei.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:00:37 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299424 Archived-At: > I have made :lisp-dir a general property of a package description. This > might be set in package-vc when generating the -pkg.el, but in > principle any (non-vc) package could make use of this to indicate a > subdirectory where lisp files are stored. For now this is something > that will probably only interest package-vc. Hmm... but if a package does that in an ELPA archive (i.e. the `:lisp-dir` thingy appears in the `archive-contents`), then this package will not be installed correctly when installed with an older Emacs, right? IOW, it's an extension of the ELPA protocol. I do think it's getting time to update the protocol based on the experience gained over the last 10 years, but I'm really not convinced `:lisp-dir` is a good addition. E.g. a thing I'd find more interesting would be to let the tarball provide its own -autoloads.el (which is in charge of adding whichever lisp-dirs it wants). Stefan