From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fixing report-emacs-bug Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:35:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <66D10997-3675-4D74-9DD3-340D2DD69871@gmail.com> <3DAFCD49-E4A8-45EF-AFAB-81096D3FD29B@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120502583 25300 80.91.229.2 (4 Jul 2005 18:43:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 20:43:01 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpVtG-0005Zj-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:41:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpVuT-0001rO-VA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:43:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpVrt-0000fJ-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpVrp-0000cz-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpVro-0000an-20 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DpVtO-0006fd-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:42:06 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04D82CF4D1; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB464AC00A; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 99F80E6C1B; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: David Reitter In-Reply-To: (David Reitter's message of "Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:46:27 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-4.847, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.05, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40356 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40356 >> Doesn't matter. The bug is simple: in a default config of OS X, if you do >> "sendmail foo@bar It seems to go into the queue. Who cares? All the end user sees is that, without having messed with the system in any way, her email didn't get to the destination and she didn't receive a bounce either. I.e. it's "lost". Whether a hacker/guru can recover the email 2 years later or not is beside the point. > Just like on a GNU/Linux system with postfix shut down (is that so? can't > check this lacking root access on our systems.) Could be, but that doesn't make the behavior correct on Mac OS X. > OK, that's a good idea. I'll report this. But don't expect this to be > changed any time soon. Of course not. But I just get really annoyed when people ask us to work around bugs in proprietary systems without even bothering to try and get those bugs fixed. Stefan