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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 'Juri Linkov' <juri@jurta.org>,
	'Nick Roberts' <nickrob@snap.net.nz>,
	'Jan DjFFFFFFrv' <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>,
	"'Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)'" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:21:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4pa9o1al.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <009701c89b3b$0c5f7f60$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:45:28 -0700")

>> >> But the main thing is to avoid minibuffer expansion and shrinkage.
>> >
>> > Why is that the main thing? Why is that even a goal?
>> 
>> Because some people don't like it or because it sometimes 
>> can't be done.

> If it can't be done, then it can't be done. Can't argue with that.

> But it doesn't seem right for the only echo-area display of tooltip
> help to truncate it at the frame width. Joining the lines is not
> a problem, but losing some of the info could be.

> Make such truncation an option, if you want, and even make it the
> default way of displaying a tooltip in the echo area, if you want. But
> there should be some way for users to see the complete tooltip text in
> the echo area.

Oh, you're arguing about the truncation part, not the single-line part.
Then I agree it might be better to not bother truncating.
Especially since the truncation is inexact anyway (depending on the
chars found and the fonts used for them we may not cut at the right
place: the only right way to truncate is via tuncate-lines).


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-10 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20 15:08 mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-20 16:46 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-20 17:04   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-20 17:26     ` Drew Adams
2008-03-20 17:42       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-21  7:07       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-21 14:28         ` Drew Adams
2008-03-21 17:45           ` [OT] Mail-Followup-To, Outlook (was: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit) Reiner Steib
2008-03-21 18:42             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-21 19:45               ` [OT] Mail-Followup-To, Outlook Reiner Steib
2008-03-22  1:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-21 18:36           ` mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-21 18:22         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-21 19:11           ` Mail-Followup-To (was: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit) Reiner Steib
2008-03-21 23:22             ` Mail-Followup-To Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-21 23:51               ` Mail-Followup-To Reiner Steib
2008-03-21  8:38     ` mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Jan Djärv
2008-03-21 21:47       ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-21 22:03         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-21 22:10           ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-22  1:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:38               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10  6:20                 ` Nick Roberts
2008-04-10  7:27                   ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10  8:38                     ` Nick Roberts
2008-04-10  9:06                       ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10 16:18                     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10 18:32                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-10 18:45                         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10 21:21                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-04-11  5:23                             ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-11  6:47                               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-11 16:28                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-10 20:29                       ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10 21:14                         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-11  5:21                           ` Jan Djärv
2008-03-20 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-21  7:06   ` Dan Nicolaescu

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