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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bugs against emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4p11f9gz.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081218074358.GN4782@volo.donarmstrong.com> (Don Armstrong's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:43:58 -0800")

>> You don't know that.
> Of course I know where the most ordinary form of a reply should go:
> the bug, and the person sending the message.
>> Only the person replying knows where that reply should go.
> Enough people replying clearly have no clue where they should go;
> hence this entire thread.
>> Besides, I don't see why getting this result requires fiddling with
>> the reply-to header. Can you give an example?
> To: submit@bugs
> From: bar
> Subj: Bug #1234: blah

> Causes the following message to be sent to anyone who should get mail
> involving bug 1234:

> To: submit@bugs
> From: bar
> Subj: Bug #1234: blah
> Reply-To: 1234@bugs, bar

And this is wrong, because if I want to reply only to the author, most
MUAs will force me to copy&paste emails by hand, since a simply "reply
to author" will probably take the address from the "reply-to" rather
than from "From:".

So this header makes "reply to author" behave in the way appropriate for
"reply-to-all", and make "reply-to-all" misbehave (it sends both to
1234@bugs and submit@bugs, which is somewhat hacked around by Debbugs).

A good header for the email sent by Debbugs would be:

   To: 1234@bugs
   From: bar
   Subj: Bug #1234: blah

> It'd require changing To: in the above message to some address other
> than the address the message was actually sent to, like 1234@bugs.
> Thus, a bogus value.

That's not a bogus value at all.  It's The Right Thing.
What's the problem with it?

> Debbugs is basically a huge wrapper around a mailing list per bug; the
> issue we have now is that there are multiple aliases for the same
> mailing list, and neither debbugs nor emacs-bugs does message-id
> caching and /dev/null-ing, save on display of messages for debbugs.

If you got the headers right, there wouldn't be much need for such
message-id caching.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-18 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-12 12:44 Bug tracker breaks rmail-next-same-subject Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 19:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-12 23:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 21:47 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-12 23:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 23:25     ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-12 23:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-12 23:57         ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-13  2:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-13  9:42             ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-13 22:58               ` Glenn Morris
2008-12-13 23:14                 ` Bugs against emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Don Armstrong
2008-12-13 23:33                   ` Glenn Morris
2008-12-14  0:23                     ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-14  3:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-14  8:06                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-14 10:13                         ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-14 20:53                           ` Glenn Morris
2008-12-14 21:27                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-17  5:39                             ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-17 16:10                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-18  7:43                                 ` Don Armstrong
2008-12-18 21:46                                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-12-14  8:14                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-14  2:50                     ` Stefan Monnier

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