From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch. Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <30298845.656931270806476838.JavaMail.www@wwinf4631> <4BBF0C6C.7000909@swipnet.se> <4BC011F5.9010505@swipnet.se> <4BC0A2EC.3060807@swipnet.se> <50923.130.55.132.80.1270917734.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <4BC0B146.5020802@swipnet.se> <51053.130.55.132.80.1270919810.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <4BC0BB52.7040404@swipnet.se> <4BC0C6F3.6060100@harpegolden.net> <4BC0CE04.2090709@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270933972 22985 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2010 21:12:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" , David De La Harpe Golden To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 23:12:51 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0hz0-0006s3-Ry for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:12:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41059 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0hz0-00054n-8P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O0hyu-00054i-Om for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59974 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0hys-00054a-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:12:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0hyq-0001x2-Mf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:65040 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0hyq-0001wy-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:12:40 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAH6GwEtMCqWu/2dsb2JhbACbRXK4Z4UMBItG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,183,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="60603720" Original-Received: from 76-10-165-174.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.165.174]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2010 17:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 538227F1B; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:12:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC0CE04.2090709@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:14:12 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123460 Archived-At: > And kind of meaningless to use a toolkit in the first place. The widgets > are supposed to simplify things after all. Apparently the Gnome/Gtk guys aren't out to make life of application writers easier. They're instead dedicated to making things easy/uniform for the end user, which imposes severe constraints on the applications, especially ones like Emacs which haven't been designed around Gtk's ideas. Stefan