From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:17:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <85k31coixa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85oapy5kt6.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y4oiiw81.fsf@gnu.org> <838ugdf251.fsf@gnu.org> <54D80098.3020209@cs.ucla.edu> <54D85304.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> <54D9AC29.2020603@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423682313 2389 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2015 19:18:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 19:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , Stephen Leake , Emacs development discussions To: =?windows-1252?Q?Aur=E9lien?= Aptel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 20:18:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcnk-00045z-Bv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:18:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46699 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcnj-0000TB-Pq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:18:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40443) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcnf-0000Rz-Oj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:18:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcnc-0002YP-FV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:18:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:59752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcnc-0002YK-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B636185C9A; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:18:11 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA611E5B8A; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:17:45 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9E63CB4102; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:17:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Aur=E9lien?= Aptel"'s message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:08:56 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 132.204.24.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182913 Archived-At: >> I think I got confused by the name: these objects don't represent >> modules, right (despite the name of their type)? They are objects >> created by a particular module (stored in the module-id). > Correct. I started with Lisp_Module_Object but thought it was redundant. I think the undesirable part of this name is "module" ;-) At least, AFAICT, while this feature is introduced so that modules can use it, it is not directly dependent on modules. So, we could call it something else like "Lisp_Opaque_finalized_Object" (I'm sure you can all easily come up with an even longer name). >> The Lisp_Misc union is for objects with up to 5 "words" (or 6 "words" if >> you count the word that holds the header). Your objects have only >> 2 "words" (or 3 if you count the header where you added the "id"), so >> you're perfectly fine, with room to grow. > I'm not sure what "words" means here. It means "the natural size of things on the particular system". > Pointers are 64 bits wide on 64 bits systems, Right, so "words" are 64bit on such a system. Stefan