From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customizable modes and package.el Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:26:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427545648 3394 80.91.229.3 (28 Mar 2015 12:27:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 12:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sebastian Wiesner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 28 13:27:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YbppI-0003Rm-Fg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2015 13:26:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53710 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbppH-0002Xo-TB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:26:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34745) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ybpp3-0002WE-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:26:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ybpp0-0004PV-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:26:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:25611) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ybpoz-0004PR-Uk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:26:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRBbthL/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYt8aAkBAgECgz4Dg3AEqDs X-IPAS-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRBbthL/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYt8aAkBAgECgz4Dg3AEqDs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,1,1400040000"; d="scan'208";a="114825607" Original-Received: from 65-110-216-75.cpe.pppoe.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([65.110.216.75]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 28 Mar 2015 08:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1785FD65; Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:26:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Sebastian Wiesner's message of "Sat, 28 Mar 2015 09:58:02 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184451 Archived-At: > Now, my users usually install my package via ELPA, and by default, > ELPA packages do not become available until *after* the init file was > loaded. > What did I do wrong? You forgot to tell them to add (package-initialize) at the beginning of their ~/.emacs. And yes, the user shouldn't have to do that by hand, but currently, that's where we're at. Stefan