From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:40:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150831061236.27796.57762@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55E3F434.2060507@yandex.ru> <55E496DC.1030608@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441078852 23522 80.91.229.3 (1 Sep 2015 03:40:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 03:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 01 05:40:42 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWcR7-000895-4S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 05:40:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43953 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWcR6-0005uj-P7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34164) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWcR0-0005uN-0m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:40:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWcQw-0006Gc-JD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:60595) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWcQw-0006GY-7J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:40:30 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DwFwA731xV//rn92hcDoMCVF6CUAhGhQe7QIFahXECAgEBAoE8OxIBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNdAQEDAQwXMx4FEAkCGgIYDgICFBgNJIg3CA2Nb50QpBcBK4EhihmEUjMHgmiBRQW1BCOCChwVf1oiMQGCRgEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0DwFwA731xV//rn92hcDoMCVF6CUAhGhQe7QIFahXECAgEBAoE8OxIBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNdAQEDAQwXMx4FEAkCGgIYDgICFBgNJIg3CA2Nb50QpBcBK4EhihmEUjMHgmiBRQW1BCOCChwVf1oiMQGCRgEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="162023876" Original-Received: from 104-247-231-250.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([104.247.231.250]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 31 Aug 2015 23:40:29 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7259F6615C; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:40:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <55E496DC.1030608@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:03:08 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189367 Archived-At: >> I'm not even sure if "don=E2=80=99t" is typographically >> better than "don't" (after all, last I checked the little thingy is >> supposed to be an "apostrophe", not a "right single quotation mark"). > Typographically it's not an issue: in non-typewriter English, U+2019 RIGHT > SINGLE QUOTATION MARK is supposed to be use for elision (=E2=80=9Cdon=E2= =80=99t=E2=80=9D), for > closing a single quotation (=E2=80=9CHe said =E2=80=98no=E2=80=99.=E2=80= =9D) and for grammar (=E2=80=9CThose are my > sisters=E2=80=99 books.=E2=80=9D). It's the same character for all three= . See, for > example, . I think in the context of Emacs, if we have to choose between ' and =E2=80= =99 and there's not a strong reason to prefer the non-ASCII char, we should stick with the ASCII char. The only thing we're trying to fix here is the ugly `...' quoting. I don't see any need to change anything else at this stage. Stefan