From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87twg05nqf.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468413528 3667 80.91.229.3 (13 Jul 2016 12:38:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:38:48 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 13 14:38:39 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJR1-00072v-By for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:38:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47163 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJR0-0005qr-OC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:38:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJQE-0005ox-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJQA-0001Dr-8Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40051) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJQA-0001Di-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJQ7-0006VS-QW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:37:43 +0200 Original-Received: from 69-165-156-121.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.165.156.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:37:43 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-165-156-121.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:37:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 10 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-165-156-121.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:O8yEcwosQGpckf6Hx9oDXQxKFE0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205617 Archived-At: > With all due respect, I think that is not true, not even close to > being true. The change log is tremendously better in all cases than > any other method I've seen. It is hard work to recover the change log > from a diff. But it's not like the VCS only has diffs to offer. "git log" gives pretty much the same info as the ChangeLog. Stefan