From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions? Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 08:24:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <76b1fb81-54c0-c213-a542-dc7b9838c473@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517145980 6486 195.159.176.226 (28 Jan 2018 13:26:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:26:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 28 14:26:16 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efmyL-00019F-AO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:26:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38667 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efn0K-000705-BK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 08:28:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50818) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efmzd-0006zy-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 08:27:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efmza-0005CU-3J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 08:27:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=58082 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efmzZ-0005Ba-SL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 08:27:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efmxF-0005fO-9b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:25:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:5WQmHqzfniJLu8YgJm9FJ0WOwi4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222272 Archived-At: > > When a user does A, by default, it will do B in the current session and > > causes subsequent Emacs invocations to automatically do B as well > > (i.e. B is done by default on all installed packages). > That doesn't make sense to me. Why not? All the packages that come bundled with Emacs are always unconditionally activated and we don't offer any way to prevent this activation (indeed, it's activated during the dump so we basically can't prevent it). Package.el follows the same idea (except that it does offer some way to prevent activation of some packages, by customizing package-load-list). Stefan