From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tree-sitter and emacs-devel Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:13:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83ftdlyhx0.fsf@gnu.org> <837dywwtdg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="108358"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 03 17:14:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jKO1T-000S2v-50 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 17:14:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56884 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jKO1S-0000w8-4v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jKO0q-00006x-3U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:13:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jKO0o-0007ud-Pr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:13:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:38889) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jKO0m-0007sC-Mx; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:13:36 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 849401002FA; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D2380100288; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:13:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1585926813; bh=vwi533nCUTpGyGxCoSaFbh2BF65orj9pcjtuLfojtVA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZJGjOdYLXCjc73JJsqCoKTb1wMvxsJwpoUiaZbyqGbeL7KzXy7be4OfQRlllHEd01 6m1lbFbAt93OafKQdpU+lU+g10e9BJJ9And5fxudYlAEkBYWVR0cL86bP25mHLrXuM OrrCH/BSLh81Vpv62v6LGn8b6DFaX3oFQzyi6XvN8lE6FwfPO3wMpiBS71rT17OWeI YnOXcEZpNiuBK2bOEnwY2LWnq/LRjPJP5h54dCrcYbwqOamoVPv318cRtpWiCkAR17 QuSkfoF6MDmq69GeCiRO44QQHi3e38+u5X9zRj9gEPA4Eqc5Pb0x35q137UVTE6vet FbdkyrDEJM+2w== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.241.114]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67B8B12059D; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 11:13:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <837dywwtdg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 03 Apr 2020 17:12:27 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246333 Archived-At: >> > I remember a similar situation on the emacs-bidi mailing list 15 years >> > ago when the bidirectional editing support for Emacs was just a pipe dream. >> That was a completely different situation. tree-sitter is very far from >> a pipe dream (the initial Git commit dates back to 2013). > You may not remember it, but at the time I mentioned we had a working > prototype of bidi Emacs. It was even demonstrated at a conference in > Japan in the year 2000. So the situation is not really that > different. But AFAIK noone here is planning to implement a new parser to *replace* tree-sitter, so again, this is not a comparable situation at all. In the LSP world, `tree-sitter` would be like an LSP server, and `emacs-tree-sitter` would be like eglot.el. Stefan