From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pushing the mark from a primitive like goto-char Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <9815d21d-b20e-c6d8-aae0-77aa65a4138a@gmx.at> <87sg7pq2bx.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28094"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: martin rudalics , Juri Linkov , Daniel =?windows-1252?Q?Mart=EDn?= , Stefan Kangas , "Daniel =?windows-1252?Q?Mart=EDn?= via Emacs development discussions." To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 21:03:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kwsXr-00073i-BN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 21:03:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57690 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwsXq-0007SY-DD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:03:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59116) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwsWW-0006xw-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:01:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:10016) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwsWM-0004Ws-36 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:01:39 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A2EF4441140; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:01:32 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7426A44112E; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:01:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1609876891; bh=K0tK7xfMzMcE5hWCt74+/mLCgN2kJyz8OHbjfxG1HWk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=oppRJajCzGsxRPBJV34oJ9lVFNw3ZtG2W8D2qMlAgQqQfKWFGB7/wZR+5X38jILDb eoc1AcYM9T3I6LGC5nLJJTbXDDX/BAIttNvl7PI5gt/f7OfMunezeLDUunFr7h0jC7 /6qyha6so8eV9DHiF0B2DuAmIgIpaK1v7Tix6Qh4b3Ma6xl9ZLAF5CDhn4PBSVtsZ1 JfFiVdncHgeW/IB6FVXu1IeURcB8KsBtRqK53y0uW2qgAx4NLaH3FdikfiRQOkmcVg E4KBpc6BeKMS0MFBOKtNNKpx0R10Do2L5G+X+BYC+Lnn9aOzPLb0iN2jGrt3F8ExBS XCQJW+Qqypurg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.243.191]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F23621204EB; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:01:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Philipp Stephani's message of "Tue, 5 Jan 2021 20:52:44 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262547 Archived-At: > I think that would be too confusing. The interactive specification > should only gather input, but not perform state changes. I'd have to see it before I could judge, but I don't think it would necessarily be confusing, no. We already do similar things in some interactive specs, for example for the `handle-shift-selection`. Stefan