From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: undo-auto--undoable-change infloop Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 00:23:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y1vwq0su.fsf@web.de> <20221009.080227.2266845120078877974.enometh@meer.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18757"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Madhu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 09 06:24:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ohNrg-0004fw-Jl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 06:24:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37340 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohNrf-0000ew-FY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 00:24:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54976) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohNqU-0007zD-Tr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 00:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:33591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohNqS-00005d-Rm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2022 00:23:22 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 727EB100189; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 00:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0E304100084; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 00:23:18 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1665289398; bh=AwQZ+gPAZApti7Wb7yFWa+of8M8nC0FuFP+tXVwbZsE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=KIQMxyyf/TgrXv5cK92pvWu/X1kJM/idOLRMmYqJEG50Ix5bTYKzk1sRw9JlEabvG oMVTcgWc090cY6Q65E5aX0HidyWD3QGjkRkFC4WYaYyOYNMDczViM9ujx3nmT+8hld 5o+QBI7LLJQm1fTq+vhNNuPGQj/PaGJi7jBDr7nVOJySC5ki9DXj3A5BX0LhFntIG/ 2qal5vdEagBKJVKQAZ4A6HLe2QpgjESl+NuHm0K7ZpOB6QbTjK7HbOktPXbz53UXb5 NI5G8192Icpc5IIBXH7/drMqmbT8SOVKeBzBO9rVi1G4iUBTtp+HARO7FJ7LVsKMho z8ggwiyOKDmvQ== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D296912036E; Sun, 9 Oct 2022 00:23:17 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20221009.080227.2266845120078877974.enometh@meer.net> (Madhu's message of "Sun, 09 Oct 2022 08:02:27 +0530 (IST)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297240 Archived-At: > (CANCEL-TIMER returns NIL) > > Earlier it was possible to avoid unnecessary consing, which is now > imposed on the user by the new API. The new API may still be usable > but is gratuitously inefficient: I think the public/private API purity > fixation which motivated it is misguided here. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Stefan