From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Delegating user-reserved key binding space definition to users Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:29:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <57b69c22e167d429d21bb969feb22887@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <877czikyfa.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11026"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Psionic K , Emacs developers To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 26 18:30:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oyz08-0002ZQ-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 18:30:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyyzW-0004kF-EJ; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:29:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyyzU-0004jw-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:29:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyyzR-0004Lx-Hc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:29:23 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6EC9E440FF8; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:29:19 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 209A8440F3A; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:29:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1669483758; bh=UxMMd3pD6PQTSFEVgFM4R8jOHDK+ASRsCjA1L7jgLDc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=XCM/05ZWXtQ/Piiwc3nc6ND0qSglaqmFxVxF9tP+R0E2/TmGLgvk08h8pzXifY9Pt dTbXrevj801hxj5rooqAOAq0pVtsa3V4vMggAicdHSLrAiaNneTBH9DNNEnym8lCH9 FueK5wH/0szW6aj6sgRLJczC5qkC25L8AIsIHuCjofXrFQqvOaNffBHY2o4dBq00bW tgT2TKcSrIffELwhB2h+II+RlNix/rQWANEU5xGlmdr7IvWsT3R+HoqPlTw7mwjN00 //nl6TBxp+FCIYVqYIxsROLelmVmDO9PeGSWsFe6mll9AFK4iv1cJY1ifZy90A/ySB ipmQBldGey9SA== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [104.247.241.157]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA7A6120776; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:29:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <877czikyfa.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sat, 26 Nov 2022 06:44:09 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300576 Archived-At: > I suggest introducing a notion of "generalized" commands. Such commands > will represent common actions executed by users (like move to > next/previous element). Major and minor modes can then define specific > implementation of the actions. I think it's a non-starter because it requires foresight: only those commands defined with this mechanism will be extensible. I agree that an additional level of indirection is probably necessary, but I suspect it needs to be placed elsewhere. [ FWIW, you can get similar results with the current setup using command remapping. ] Stefan