From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: 19 Nov 2003 23:57:03 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <87ad6vdsxi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069304405 22385 80.91.224.253 (20 Nov 2003 05:00:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 20 06:00:01 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMgvB-0001vJ-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:00:01 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMgvB-00084y-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:00:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMhrF-0001EK-Si for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:00:01 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMhr3-00019U-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:59:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMhqS-0000rT-9k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:59:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMhps-0000b9-SI; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from vor.iro.umontreal.ca (vor.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.42]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAK4v4bj009059; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:57:04 -0500 Original-Received: by vor.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D0AAD3C63E; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:57:03 -0500 (EST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17943 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17943 > Anyway my point is that the difference between defcustom with and > without a * is in practice absent and in theory much too subtle and > debatable to justify its existence (after all, who knows whether users > will want to set something interactively or only at startup). > Shouldn't set-variable distinguish, at least for completion purposes? Why should it ? Programmers forget the * all the time, so people complained about some vars being settable via customize-variable but not via set-variable, and it was fixed so the * is irrelevant for `defcustom'. I think that's a good thing and I'd like to bring the doc in line with the code. Stefan