From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Selection-set editing without VC-dired Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:52:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20071230142812.C8027CF80B9@golux.thyrsus.com> <85wsqww8ie.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199242393 14899 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2008 02:53:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 02:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 02 03:53:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J9tjT-0006tm-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:53:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tj7-0000Kn-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:53:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tj2-0000IB-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:53:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tj1-0000Hc-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:53:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tj1-0000HZ-Pi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:52:59 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9tiy-0002sd-1B; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:52:56 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAFuLekfO+IaddGdsb2JhbACQEQEwlX0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,231,1196658000"; d="scan'208";a="12172140" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 01 Jan 2008 21:52:55 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.134.157]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id IDC51555; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:52:55 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2BDD884AE; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 21:52:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <85wsqww8ie.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:40:41 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85843 Archived-At: >> So, I'm not outright rejecting the idea of a non-VC-Dired UI for >> specifying selection sets. But I think it would be better for >> now if I continued to focus on making VC-Dired so fast that >> you won't really want or need an alternate set-editing method. > PCL-CVS is certainly fast enough but I still consider having to use it > (or other directory-based methods) for multi-file commits a crutch and > inconvenience. There is no point in having to go through a directory > listing when committing two files already loaded and edited in buffers. While I like PCL-CVS, obviously, I agree that I also use VC to commit single files and that I occasionally feel like it would be nice to have an intermediate level. Typically I see it work something like: - from foo.c I'd do C-x v v: makes me jump to *VC-log* set up to commit foo.c - go to foo.h - from foo.h I'd also do a C-x v v: makes me jump again to *VC-log* but this time setup to commit both foo.c and foo.h. - C-c C-c then commits both. On a related note, with current VCS making ChangeLog file less relevant, it'd also make sense to make C-x 4 a jump to the *VC-log* buffer, add the relevant piece of text and maybe also add the file to the set of files that will be committed. Stefan