From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skv7d6sa.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lk0z1w3e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej6rpqh0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhf1mxe.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214022174 15535 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 04:22:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it, Kenichi Handa To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 21 06:23:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9udU-0002uq-R1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:23:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36333 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9ucf-0002q1-HC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9uca-0002mz-1U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9ucY-0002kq-CB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42224 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9ucY-0002kj-8z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:29079) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9ucR-0002GX-VG; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:32 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQEAIseXEjO+KWv/2dsb2JhbACBW61T X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,683,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="23045327" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2008 00:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.165.175]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id BKR31231; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D92A17F05; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87abhf1mxe.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:34:05 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99583 Archived-At: >>> What font should we use for variable-pitch? Bitstream Vera Sans? >> I'd put "Sans-Serif" first, so as to re-use fontconfig's default. >> Similarly for fixed-pitch (not sure if that's "mono" or "monospace" or >> what). > Fontconfig's generic handling seems aimed more at finding something > "usable" rather than something "good", and the ordering seems almost > random (Bitstream Vera comes before Dejavu, even though the latter is > more or less a better version of the former, and on my system "Sans > Serif" resolves to "Kochi Gothic", apparently simply because I have that > installed). Hmm... so what do other apps use? I think we should aim to use whatever other applications use by default, since there's a better chance that this has been correctly setup (and if not, at least we won't be worse than those other apps and we can just say "sorry, not our fault"). E.g. what does Firefox use? (or Vim ;-)? Stefan