From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Evil defvars in org.el Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 11:29:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k411g8xa.fsf@gnu.org> <877gx1pv19.fsf@gnu.org> <87vckls01f.fsf@gnu.org> <77ehr96ty6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <874ns4sidf.fsf@gnu.org> <0u1un0cu4b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336145386 4960 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2012 15:29:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 17:29:44 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SQKRv-0007Qn-PU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2012 17:29:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55231 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SQKRv-0006xC-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2012 11:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SQKRs-0006x6-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2012 11:29:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SQKRn-0005LN-Sf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2012 11:29:36 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.143.162]:32495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SQKRi-0005JL-9e; Fri, 04 May 2012 11:29:26 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYIACxOgk9MCqD5/2dsb2JhbABDuCMDgQyBCIIJAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJC6HbgW2MothhHkEpEWBXYMD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,391,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="178335855" Original-Received: from 76-10-160-249.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.160.249]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 May 2012 11:29:22 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 86D0066109; Fri, 4 May 2012 11:29:22 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <0u1un0cu4b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 04 May 2012 02:56:04 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.143.162 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150253 Archived-At: > It seems to me that this is something where there really ought to be > a general Emacs solution (dynamic-let or whatever). There is such a thing: (defvar ). > Another example is display-time-string-forms (helpfully hidden by > with-no-warnings). Do you propose to make similar changes everywhere > this same issue occurs? There are many cases where changing the name of the dynamic vars is too inconvenient (they may even appear in user's customization). Stefan