From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:21:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <21606.10799.112099.788101@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <1753218.Ot8JCqssfN@descartes> <546AABCF.8030705@cs.ucla.edu> <9xioico2nm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zjbntvfz.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87k32rta32.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416435752 3958 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2014 22:22:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 22:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bastien , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 19 23:22:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XrDdn-0008Ci-Sr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:22:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60997 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrDdn-0000J1-9z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:22:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrDdS-0000Iv-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:22:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrDdL-0001tv-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:49782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrDdK-0001tp-UX; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:21:54 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id sAJMLpTv001719; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:21:52 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 935E48667; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:21:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87k32rta32.fsf@engster.org> (David Engster's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:43:29 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5130=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5130> : inlines <1545> : streams <1345332> : uri <1835345> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177826 Archived-At: > I'm all for it. My hope is that this is the first step in getting rid of > the Changelog format altogether, and switching to commit messages that > value content over form. I'm not sure what other format you have in mind which would have better content. FWIW, I think an ideal commit message should look like: In most cases, the explanation will be empty because the bug-nb provides the explanation or because the explanation can be placed in the code instead (a better choice, when applicable). Stefan