From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20141211092138.6D5F6C008E@snark.thyrsus.com> <87y4qcj2mq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87mw6sdetf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tx10iya1.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87iohgdarf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wq5wa8s7.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx0zsxq5.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87wq5vy3qh.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bnn68jdr.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418618376 22409 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2014 04:39:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 04:39:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 05:39:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0NRR-0001t1-50 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 05:39:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37929 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0NRQ-0005UQ-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:39:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34393) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0NR6-0005Ty-T0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:39:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0NQz-0002ql-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:39:08 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:34786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0NQy-0002qY-Se for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:39:00 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsPAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBVigLCzQSFBgNiG4J1lkBCwEfkHYWhDIFiwGSMY9zggqBeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IPAS-Result: AjsPAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBVigLCzQSFBgNiG4J1lkBCwEfkHYWhDIFiwGSMY9zggqBeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="101970082" Original-Received: from 206-248-130-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([206.248.130.192]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 14 Dec 2014 23:38:59 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BF7AFAE15A; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:38:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87bnn68jdr.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (Uwe Brauer's message of "Sun, 14 Dec 2014 14:13:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180123 Archived-At: > You are right, also I find the symbols provided my the functionality you > mentioned quite ugly compared to the one presented by x-symbol, a bit > like comparing a math documented generated by (La)TeX or say by an IBM > from then seventies..... This seems to be a simple matter of choosing the right font. IOW it completely depends on your particular setup. Maybe if you post a snapshot showing the symbols chosen by Emacs for the actual characters alongside the symbols displayed by X-Symbol for the corresponding TeX commands, someone will be able to help you get Emacs to choose better symbols. >> More to the point: Emacs's built-in LaTeX mode already displays those >> above "_k" and "^l" as sub- and superscripts (and has been doing it for >> many years now). >> So, what did X-Symbol do with super/subscript that isn't covered by this? > Well it does not display the ugly _ (while in x-symbols the _ or ^ are > omitted when the indices are displayed)[1] That's just a conscious choice of the font-lock settings used in tex-mode.el. You could easily tweak those settings to additionally hide the _ or ^ characters. > Another important feature, which I have not seen so far by other > packages concerns: Graphics! Pdf, jpg gif Indeed. There's also no input method corresponding to the X-Symbol's symbol menu, nor for its symbol table (which displays the symbols in a buffer where you can select them wither with the mouse of by moving the cursor to the symbol you like). Stefan