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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: UI inconveniences with M-.
Date: Sat, 02 May 2015 02:59:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv383fiigr.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5543E3CF.5010402@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 1 May 2015 23:36:31 +0300")

[ Moving this to emacs-devel.  ]

> Maybe the solution is to define the ability for a backend to return groups,
> probably nested ones.

I don't see much need for nesting.  I think the issue is mostly one of
sorting in *xref* (or in the cycling, if we were to use a hypothetical
other UI that provides functionality like the old etags.el).

So, let's focus on this.
My suggestion would be either:
- make xref-find-function return not just a list of locations, but also
  an indication whether they're pre-sorted or not.
- make xref-find-function return not a list of locations, but a list of
  lists of locations (i.e. every location inside a sub-list is
  considered to have the same "level/quality/likelihood", but the lists
  are sorted by their "level/quality/likelihood").
- let the backend provide its own sorting function to override the
  current "group by file" sorting.

Basically, I think the focus should be on making sure that we can
re-implement the old behavior on top of the new API when using the
xref/etags backend.

Another thing that we should consider is how to let the user choose
which backend to use.  Currently we only have xref-etags-mode, but
I think it would make sense to make it possible for the user to
dynamically choose among the potentially many more backends (e.g. we
could add an xref/grep backend, and there will hopefulyl be more using
things like id-utils, gtags, ...) and maybe also to use several backends
at the same time (merging the results).  I don't have any suggestions
for what this could/should look like, OTOH.  But maybe one way to do
that would be to let each backend expose via the API a set of knobs
(one of which would be an "enable/disable" knob), and then provide an
xref command that can manage these knobs conveniently.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-02  6:59 UTC|newest]

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2015-04-29  2:41                                 ` UI inconveniences with M- Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29  6:10                                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 13:23                                     ` conflicting uses of next-error-function (was: UI inconveniences with M-.) Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 16:58                                       ` conflicting uses of next-error-function Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 17:40                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 18:15                                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 23:14                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30  6:19                                               ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-30  8:04                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30 17:46                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02 23:20                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03  6:54                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-03 11:45                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03 13:25                                                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-03 14:12                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 22:21                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-05  2:28                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  9:47                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-05 14:05                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 14:26                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-04-29 23:05                                       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 23:11                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 23:52                                           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 23:15                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30  6:35                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 15:26                                     ` UI inconveniences with M- Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-30  0:44                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-30  0:55                                         ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 17:08                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 15:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 15:57                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 16:17                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 16:25                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 16:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 17:06                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 17:15                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 17:26                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 17:59                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 18:10                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 21:54                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-30 13:42                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 14:21                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-01 18:32                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 21:04                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-01 21:13                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  7:00                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-02  7:18                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  8:35                                           ` Fumitaka Tokumitsu
2015-05-01 21:11                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  8:12                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  8:46                                             ` Fumitaka Tokumitsu
2015-05-02 12:41                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 12:57                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 13:31                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 13:44                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02 17:44                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02  8:26                                   ` Fumitaka Tokumitsu
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2015-04-29  3:13                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29  3:25                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29  4:15                                               ` Stefan Monnier
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2015-05-02  6:59                                                         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-05-02  7:59                                                           ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02  8:39                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  9:09                                                               ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02  9:24                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-02  9:50                                                                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02 18:29                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 13:13                                                           ` xref "find references" and grouping Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-02 14:14                                                             ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-02 19:01                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03  7:47                                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2015-05-04  1:35                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-04  2:09                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 13:10                                                                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-04 14:21                                                                       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-04 21:29                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  0:02                                                                         ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-05  0:18                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  1:45                                                                             ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-02 19:10                                                           ` UI inconveniences with M- Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 13:41                                                           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-04 21:34                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  0:13                                                               ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-05  0:14                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05  1:36                                                                   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-05-05 15:06                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
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2015-04-29  3:12                                 ` Etags.el (was: UI inconveniences with M-.) Stefan Monnier
2015-04-29 15:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29 22:14                                     ` Etags.el Stefan Monnier

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