From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:50:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20160222175244.30186.2617@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87k2lwv5ob.fsf@gmx.de> <87egc4v4hs.fsf@gmx.de> <8bd4ec21-1306-41bf-aca7-5571a3014337@default> <87r3g4js64.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456246286 17548 80.91.229.3 (23 Feb 2016 16:51:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kaushal Modi , Michael Albinus , Drew Adams , Emacs developers To: Oleh Krehel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 23 17:51:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGBB-0004w4-WB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:51:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58429 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGBB-0007z6-GK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:51:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGAj-0007RN-39 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:50:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGAd-0007wN-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:50:48 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:20983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGAc-0007vk-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:50:43 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CVDQA731xV/+OhCkxcgxCEAsEVh0sEAgKBPDoTAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAQIBViECBQsLDiYSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBAQYBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FjDCnD4FFI4IKHIFwIIJ4AQEB X-IPAS-Result: A0CVDQA731xV/+OhCkxcgxCEAsEVh0sEAgKBPDoTAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAQIBViECBQsLDiYSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBAQYBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FjDCnD4FFI4IKHIFwIIJ4AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="194044936" Original-Received: from 76-10-161-227.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.161.227]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 23 Feb 2016 11:50:40 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F00DD62898; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:50:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:41:01 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200544 Archived-At: >> We have that. It's called cl.el. > That's acceptable to me, so long as its still OK to (eval-when-compile > (require 'cl)) in core modules. I think this decision started because > someone did that and you asked them to use cl-lib.el. I made an effort to try and eliminate all uses of `cl' (both compile-time and run-time), with the aim to mark `cl' as obsolete at some point, and move it to GNU ELPA. Now, you're the boos, so you don't have to do what I planned. Still, I think it's silly to keep cl.el other than for backward compatibility. Better move the few commonly used thingies out of cl-lib and remove their "cl-" prefix. As we've already done over the years with push/pop/dolist/dotimes/setf/... Stefan