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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:44:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv37nhh8hy.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20160710052404.GA28783@holos.localdomain

> Part of the inspiration for adding more things to some modes has been
> that of the p-s-alist in tuareg.el:
> https://github.com/ocaml/tuareg/blob/master/tuareg.el#L468

FWIW, I don't much like the new "not" and "sqrt" thingies either, tho
I wasn't bothered enough to turn them off either, so I can clearly live
with them.

I like ¬ in tuareg-mode, OTOH.  Not sure exactly why my reaction is
different in those two cases.  Maybe the parentheses make a difference,
or maybe it's the tradition to use longish names (and hence indent
differently) in Lisp vs the tradition to use shortish names in ML?

>> It seems a bit intrusive because I have never seen that notation before.
>> While I do know the sqrt notation √, I can imagine this being a source of
>> confusion/annoyance for some people.

I personally dislike the √ notation in all major modes because in most
of the fonts I use it looks more like a check-mark, and because for me,
the √ mathematical notation would require the attached horizontal
overline bar to make sense.

But I can't remember the last time I used `sqrt` in any programming
language, so my opinion is not really relevant.

> In any case, I don't feel strongly about it.  One thing I just thought
> of is making a mode's foo-prettify-symbols-alist a defcustom--perhaps
> that will be nicer.

There's a clear need for some customization, indeed.  There isn't any
right now partly because I couldn't come up with a good idea (e.g. the
format of prettify-symbols-alist is likely to be extended in ways which
are inconvenient for an end-user, and if the end-user customizes his
var he won't benefit from later improved defaults).

At some point I was tempted to add a `prettify-symbols-inhibit` which
would contain a list of chars.  E.g. I'd personally put √ globally in
that list.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-10 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-10  4:44 ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist Kaushal Modi
2016-07-10  5:24 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-07-10  5:47   ` Mark Oteiza
2016-07-10 13:31     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-07-10 14:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-10 14:35   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-10 15:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-10 14:44   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-07-10 14:57     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-10 15:04     ` Drew Adams
2016-07-10 15:20     ` Mark Oteiza
2016-07-10 21:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-11 13:35         ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-11 14:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-14 21:18 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-14 21:32   ` John Wiegley
2016-07-14 22:31   ` Mark Oteiza
2016-07-14 22:36     ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-15  0:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-15 14:12       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 14:46         ` Drew Adams
2016-07-15 15:13           ` visual distinction for prettified symbols (was: ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist) Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 16:14             ` ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist Drew Adams
2016-07-15 14:50         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-15 15:03           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 15:17             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-15 15:35               ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-17 18:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-18 14:12                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-18 15:07                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-18 16:49                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 15:26     ` Ted Zlatanov

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