From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:54:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <520c3307-7cb2-62a6-7b37-ca9ba5333370@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="121776"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?Cl=E9ment?= Pit-Claudel , Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 26 22:55:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSoJA-000VZY-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 22:55:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45764 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSoJ9-0003gb-5D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:55:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSoIc-0002yp-ES for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:54:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSoIb-0000YZ-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:54:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:32657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSoIa-0000Q4-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:54:48 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DB3E845036C; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A4CF045029D; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:54:45 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1587934485; bh=zd3dXg6Zb/+RhVhYNfgZp6SH86RHXgrCztIon/lxirY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=kwg6RKsNdEkWNwhhozSK7zjCI9jk+fKsOwTav8ezFLDlUCPdRSZO2O/zIaBw6O+Ko TglRjiSD1BXuCRgxqNWKC2tQxHBnpASIjka+Pu/z1OvUmsOQHf/o5O/5Bkgb05jaKj SXd4rWN0uXuwlSzEENHlpMqnmS5VTTztmgenCLPoJwZZLzCnaqe2xfFs6BnHl8EdWh Oa95WNsEyKgzFHkUFSkFe8NkQzG+Pq4z2FWGpJQ22Ux1t9DdhU2eXTY8aiDz9SB4sq esB+cRedX3yi+iqFSTz3HK1cSlIlE/V3J2lMEeQdmLW/FYXkwLQTVRFMjF8OkYWGVV dM5uiGYOfoZTw== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-158-35.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.158.35]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 413A51204BA; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:54:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2020 21:52:02 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/26 16:54:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247862 Archived-At: >> So could someone summarize what are those "org-mode reflexes" that need >> switching, as well as any other impact (including hypothetical future >> benefits which will only materialize after we make further changes to >> those files to take advantage of some Org features)? > What does "org-mode reflexes" mean here? That's what I'm asking. Cl=E9ment used that term: I get very confused every time I open one of these files. It looks sufficiently similar to org to switch my org-mode reflexes on, ... > For me, the main motivation is better navigation. I don't know what "better navigation" means concretely. > But I understand the point that there are just a small number of such > improvements that could be made. That is not my point at all. I don't know if those possible improvements are few or not (nor how important they can be). Which is why I'm asking. Stefan