From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:57:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <1e340d941b6fd0b21a477f39fc935468@condition-alpha.com> <62ff80b8ff943b698ef8c46849b8bc50@condition-alpha.com> <83y2l0vas0.fsf@gnu.org> <83lfgyrn57.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7rlsxpw.fsf@gnu.org> <0e3f9f50238be8a62b481f78c1d26c83@condition-alpha.com> <83d024jxex.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo0agl6u.fsf@gnu.org> <1872097e3b35c576672cd126e26d6555@condition-alpha.com> <83imbthqdg.fsf@gnu.org> <83ft6xhnci.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20084"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: alexander.adolf@condition-alpha.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 01 20:19:49 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kO3BE-000585-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 20:19:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44524 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kO3BD-0003Xc-22 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:19:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kO2q5-0000l8-B9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:62140) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kO2q2-0008Kk-PF; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:57:56 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A4E29100FFF; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 13:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DD923100222; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 13:57:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1601575067; bh=rpOcKpOvQC/OvbloljiFTh0PQdDOkeVLKRbXceOEk7k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=maoxK/KYS67IA5x1qXLLyNv9bwRtrMghoQw8LC21RCbbaAxHQ27o8/gb+3po0fKnB I56YxRqnKcPQU3QiS19DFmIDG+lBzOuL5oM1lPiRvzIKE6h5AA/5ce1X6e1Wj+TiQp A7p+7ZsvkUvDR47WhnofbP00VBi/TjnqF2ALqT9TtwwRxqalKpgl4U9hEA4/mE34uL TOHcL2wtQSzpnbtk+XU6z4kH6JxQJlW4tPocsi3ufYjc3tna0Xm7QPWiXuJk6cHhpk HnN8TI0p+1QLiJdA9LixxFYIZglx/HPuYkCBsT2KV0axpg7g5Fa5rAQlwRMgqrkADy WLXNjGslpeyxA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86F641205B7; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 13:57:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83ft6xhnci.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 01 Oct 2020 20:23:25 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/01 09:10:03 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256898 Archived-At: > The problem is with the concept of having groups of packages that load > together, and whose customizations are on a single .el file. Once a > package can belong to more than one such group (and there will be such > packages), this concept breaks. It doesn't break, because you instead make it technically impossible for a package to belong to two such "groups". It's easy to do. Stefan