From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:38:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <87o89kw0hl.fsf@gnus.org> <0c369b25-aedd-1fdf-4813-503f27e42c7c@yandex.ru> <874kbbznwv.fsf@gmail.com> <8735qvwcqt.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3294"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Tim Cross , Daniel Fleischer , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 04:39:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJoFO-0000gw-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 04:39:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56438 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJoFM-0007Pn-UL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJoEl-0006db-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:22279) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJoEi-00026E-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:38:26 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DC42244109D; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9A9C744109A; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:38:19 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1630118299; bh=t86iFO5cPIylOZffJyJjswp5gJCFNBj/KLhx8HVZWek=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=PSmkbyARZe8r46e3ZxYppSAJ+Awh0W22I6X3rtYSKk/QgEExwaCcwGpIlrdbrvWxv l+MD8eTqspvZYU71Lplco3myCoZcGHXwU5ISMrYdJXJQJLVQQm2qXzDj0m5mXjkvx7 G7RdlF6P4GPc3KxEVWOATIeVT0OsXqcsNyadzPu3eJRGNwdy/NxDthNJd8/+wex7mE oaKiC3n9jtjqxUOIMuR/36RaVVB9hSIwsz0/tCn2UzqTQ3h1AGFDlgvb5fYeasYCfU oInbKwsuvVIkBhIOzqv61r7V3NPrclUYjM4ywVWmfXtjB92Tak0HROoaEyPe9x6W/D Q+2M2aKhQtMRw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.244.135]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 603971201C3; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:38:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Sat, 28 Aug 2021 03:39:56 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273210 Archived-At: > I wouldn't agree with you that young people don't know how to use > email. That is something you are deriving yourself. Sure Instagram, > Facebook, Dicord, Twitter, Slack etc might be very popular as a mean > of communication, but saying that young people don't know how to use > email is stretching it too far. I think the issue is not use of email as such, but use of mailing-lists. In my experience the reluctance to use email is that they feel uncomfortable sending email to a potentially large number of persons. In contrast posting on a forum doesn't impose anything on anyone (in their mind) because those who read it have to actively go and look for it. [ Of course, it doesn't make much sense, really, but this is about people's perceptions, not about anything rational. ] Stefan