From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2022 10:09:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <834jw33rmx.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmer0xtz.fsf@posteo.net> <83wn8z2aze.fsf@gnu.org> <878rle1i0k.fsf@posteo.net> <87ilkelc10.fsf@posteo.net> <878rl6syg8.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgdjqcu0.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgdivc3f.fsf@posteo.net> <874jvqv2u3.fsf@posteo.net> <875yg6qtbl.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7054"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Stefan Kangas , philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 03 15:10:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oqav9-0001aQ-Ne for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 15:10:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqauN-0006dg-Gu; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 10:09:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqauF-0006b1-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 10:09:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqauE-00063b-3q; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 10:09:19 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B1451100197; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 10:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E35C81000FF; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 10:09:13 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1667484553; bh=XK9IszZXRFeph/v3/jkZtujqPqKZFr95ch9lp1ose3s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=I9ZuiWXoJa7EGezf/jMbFDJixL/+2eaU16XXAroAjuE0K9XvIN1P9nwCbbjYO0NSN 5cU/rhn6hrFeQWasPuCJi1RBRl4gu2n1QtCtwKIPMHHpaJt5JqC4NVle3SjQ14hgW4 xhO5R/ZNCZzgjXtNGOKv4Yz9CHEsudap8pB/90oMTPhVeUrQ0LucyIru7E+wxWEPzB KX5REWvSH+k50g6Qjgffed0i/Nbi9CgAiToqsRrVCeTLomMts1vwf+QN2d2/vRApO1 L5Fc8LkRqya/oFPPCHP3cnt8QutN9k+N3pVJBJaSX7iOQsybMZbrTcHbq6G9kCnH6+ xyYbXR8NDAAAQ== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1EE812022B; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 10:09:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 02 Nov 2022 23:17:48 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299074 Archived-At: > > > The GNU Project uses CVS. We need Emacs to continue to support it. > > > I don't think anyone disagrees with that (though some people might ask > > why GNU is still using CVS). > > Ifa person asked that question as simple curiosity, it might have a simple > answer or it might be "historical reasons not worth explaining." > > Nowever, the words you used suggest that people would be making > a demand that the GNU Project change its practices to adopt > the practices they prefer. That is not nice. I don't think there's any demand to change in the question. I think it's rather a statement of surprise since in the very vast majority of cases more modern VCS are so much more convenient that it's hard to imagine that the inertia is high enough to keep using CVS (or that there may actually be reasons beside inertia). Stefan