From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 21:26:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210210441 11042 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 01:34:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 01:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 03:34:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jtv1o-0000Gr-Kw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 03:34:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jtv16-0000hn-L2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 21:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jtv0m-0000Xn-0m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 21:33:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jtv0k-0000Wb-EH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 21:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56274 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jtv0k-0000WV-8y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 21:33:30 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:24090 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jtv0g-0005fZ-7F; Wed, 07 May 2008 21:33:26 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsIEAO70IUhMCrRp/2dsb2JhbACBU6tt X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,451,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="20058309" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 07 May 2008 21:33:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([76.10.180.105]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id OGP45323; Wed, 07 May 2008 21:33:23 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 01BE1B4123; Wed, 7 May 2008 21:26:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 07 May 2008 22:13:25 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96723 Archived-At: >> I'm curious: if Emacs-22 on W32 only loads the image libraries after >> the .emacs, does that mean that it doesn't display the tool-bar while >> loading the .emacs? > It depends, I guess: if .emacs includes something that could cause > redisplay (e.g., it puts flyspell on some mode-hook, and later desktop > actually turns that mode on when restoring your session), then we > cannot avoid displaying the tool bar, I think. On X11, when I start `emacs', the first thing that happens is to open a frame, with the toolbar, and only after that is the .emacs file loaded. So how can Emacs-22 on W32 avoid loading the image libraries before loading the .emacs, other than by not displaying the tool-bar, and if so how does it avoid displaying the tool-bar before loading the .emacs? Stefan