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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:38:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv1vkj8frh.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fx90ytzs.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> (Manoj Srivastava's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:09:43 -0500")

>         I also find the scrollbar somewhat confusing: When the end of
>  buffer is visible in the window, I would expect the scrollbar to reach
>  all the way to the bottom, but it does not.

It does with some GUI and not with others.  In principle it should.
The only reason for it not to is to try and work around problems when
dragging the scrollbar thumb, where many GUI toolkits are absurdly
dogmatic and make it pretty much impossible for Emacs to do what
it should.

The more I see it, the more I think that rather than let the GUI code
make this choice, we should have it be in the generic part of the code
and the GUI code only chooses the default value, so users can choose to
have a half-working drag-scroll if they prefer it (because it gives them
proper display of the thumb size and position in return).


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-31 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-30 11:18 Customizing the mode line Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 11:28 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-30 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-30 15:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 16:54     ` Drew Adams
2009-10-30 17:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 19:12       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-30 20:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31  5:16   ` Miles Bader
2009-10-31  8:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 10:00       ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-31 16:03       ` Drew Adams
2009-10-31 16:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 17:03           ` Drew Adams
2009-10-31  6:09   ` Manoj Srivastava
2009-10-31 10:31     ` Štěpán Němec
2009-10-31 20:38     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-11-01  3:11       ` Scrollbar thumbs Miles Bader
2009-11-02  6:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-02  7:41           ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-02 14:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-04 16:36   ` Customizing the mode line Evil Boris
2009-10-30 15:01 ` joakim
2009-10-30 15:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 21:55     ` Stephen Berman
2009-10-30 17:45 ` Chong Yidong
2009-10-30 20:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 20:56     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-10-31  0:13   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-31  5:17     ` Justin Bogner
2009-10-31  5:19   ` Miles Bader
2009-10-31 11:07 ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-31 11:19   ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-11-01  9:28     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-01 15:21       ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-31 11:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 14:09     ` Robert J. Chassell
2009-10-31 14:30       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 22:13         ` Robert J. Chassell
2009-10-31 22:40         ` Robert J. Chassell
2009-11-01  3:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 18:55       ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-31 17:46     ` M Jared Finder
2009-10-31 18:30       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 19:02       ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-31 14:33 ` Chong Yidong
2009-10-31 15:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 18:07     ` Chong Yidong
2009-10-31 18:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-02 10:41 Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line) grischka

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